Government took our Tamiflu
Posted by Backroadsnews on Oct 8, 2009 in Uncategorized |
Evidently there is no Tamiflu available in the area. The government bought it all up.
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How nice…..what are we supposed to do then? Guess lil ole Washington Co. doesn’t matter?
Dawn
Now why the hell did the Gov. do that . If I know that was going to happen we could have put all of our money together and stashed it away for US .
It is the liquid form that has been bought up. I talked to Dustin at the pharmacy and he said there might be some available again in December if the current schedule stays the same.
I just called Congressman Moran’s office and complained about the Tamiflu situation.
My problem is that when the government is working on a public health situation like that, I’m sure they’re much more worried about the population centers like Boston, LA, Miami, etc. Not Washington County, Kansas.
We’d be on the short end of the stick for a lot of these things if the federal government is the one making the priorities.
As far as I’m concerned they charge way too much for that stuff anyway. Samantha had Influenza A last year and 10 pills were $115. That’s absolutely crazy. How can the drug companies get away with this?
I’m considering not giving my children the H1N1 shot (if it’s even available to them) because it scares me to have them get something that hasn’t been studied enough. Joshy threw a fit last night because he thinks he will die if he doesn’t get it. I think they’ve made this too big a deal and they’re scaring the crap out of people.
Dawn
Well Dawn I will tell you what the doctors said when I worked with them: If you have a new experimental drug or vaccine wait five years til you give it to patients and 10 until you give it to family!
That makes total sense to me Leca!
Dawn
So whats the big deal . You make a big mountain out a mole hill. Over 36,000 people die from the flu every year. I agree flu season will probably be bad this year since it is starting early this year. You make it sound like living on this earth to be so great. We have much more to look forward to than this. You waste your time on stupid stuff like this, just like the national news media. Do something meaningful. This is all coffe shop stuff.
I don’t know about you Rod, but I’d like to stay on this earth long enough to enjoy my family and future family.
What exactly do you find meaningful…..please share so that the rest of us can see what we may be overlooking.
Dawn
So fine, Rod. You don’t like this blog. But what purpose does it serve to come on here and bash us all? I don’t thing your comments were very constructive or meaningful.
If he does not like what we talk about then don’t log in & don’t look then . Thats a big DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA . Please don’t lower us to the standers of the coffee shop ok Rod . We all sometimes try to get the facts right on here unlike the coffee shop were most things stink like a bad fart . We are the many , the proud , we are the Backroadsnewsroom .
I need to address something regarding the supply of Tamiflu. I have had several people ask me this afternoon about why I had sold out my supply of Tamiflu to the government. I did NOT do that. It is true that I can not currently order
liquid Tamiflu. However I am able to compound capsules that I have on my shelf IF a physician orders it. The key is IF.
The CDC currently recommends that treatment with antiviral medicine (Tamiflu) for those with suspected or confirmed H1N1 be considered in certain population. Those requiring hospitalization, those under 2 or over 65, pregnant women, those with certain chronic conditions and those who are immunosuppressed.
Wash your hands, get adequate rest, drink fluids, stay home from school or work when appropriate.
I am not very worried about H1N1 in its current form. Yes, it COULD mutate into something more serious, but it HASN’T. I have not seen any evidence of that so far.
But I want to be clear. I did not sell out my supply to the federal government nor would I ever do that to this community. Rumors sometimes get out of control and I appreciate this blog as a way to address those rumors.
If you would like to talk please feel free to call me at work 325-3130 or on my cell 406-0077 if you would like to talk.
Thanks,
Dustin
Never give out the cell # man LOL
Its never going to stop ringing now . I know you would NEVER do that to us .You just cant get it from your supplier . Their the ones that sold us out . MMMMMMMMMMMM thinking of a mango jet tea but I cant have them no more 
flash backs . 
I re-read my original post a few times and if I confused people into thinking that Dustin sold his supplies to the government, I apologize.
If you really think about it, do we really think there’d be government officials driving from small town to small town in rural Kansas, seizing all Tamiflu supplies? Or buying them out, or forcing Dustin to send them to Washington, DC or something?
So lets not make stuff up folks.
LOL…be careful what you ask Dan…I’m a big conspiracy theory person.
Dawn
I for one would never think that he would do that to us . But would the Gov. go from town to town to round it up . If it came down to it I think the Gov. would do that . You know that Dan look @ all the choppers that come this way . Eather their after you or the tamaflu . I think that some of us understand what you were saying just NOT Rod LOL.
We try to find the facts unlike the coffee shop . 
I likes me some conspiracy theory.
Loved the X-Files when it was on, especially the conspiracy theory episodes.
What about Relenza? I read that it is also recommended for the flu. As with any flu season, we need to use the old “tried and true” preventative measures mentioned above by Dustin.
well I went to the doctor yesterday (for an unrelated reason) while I was there I started to feel like crap, found out I had a temp, body aches(I thought i worked too hard on the truck, washing truck, mowing, weedeating ect.) I was told I probably have the start of the h1n1. No meds were prescribed, I was told that all the meds do is make the strain stronger and more resistant. I feel 90% better today then I did yesterday. Loads of rest, water, tylenol, and vitamin C is all I took. Do I feel like butt…yes but nothing I can’t handle. Maybe I will feel 90% better tomorrow then I do today. Good luck everyone
I have heard from friends in NW Ohio that the H1N1 is running rampant there. No one has died though. The people that have had it say it is no worse than the flu they get every year. None of these people got any shots, or took any tamiflu. I think there is more to this story than any govt official wants to tell anyone without a need to know. The media has made this a panic issue for many people, such as your son, Dawn. My issue with the tamiflu is this…someone is going to make a lot of $$$ off the sales of tamiflu. I wonder how many politicians have high amounts of stock in Roche Labratories, the makers of tamiflu?!
So what if they make a lot of money off Tamiflu sales?
Ford made a lot of money off automobiles because he had a good product. Microsoft made a lot of money off Windows and Office because they were good products (at the time). Guy who invented brown paper bags probably made a lot of money for a good idea and product.
I say if a company makes a really good product, they should make a lot of money.
If I had money laying around, I’d invest in Roche Labratories.
Tim, I KNOW you’re not suggesting the government should limit the profits of a private business, are you?
Tamiflu is not a big selling drug, therefore they need to make more money per unit sold. The price is then higher. The high cost goes to research and development, marketing, and heaven forbid, profit. To have innovation there has to be money involved with it.
Now don’t think I am sheding a tear for the drug companies. They make 20+% profit yearly, which is really high for mega-corps. However, I am with Dan, hard to say how much money a private citizen or company should make, sounds awful communal to me.
Call me Theodore Roosevelt, but it is the government’s business to regulate monopolies, is it not? If you develop a good product, you do deserve to profit from it. The problem comes when the fact that the product means life or death for its consumers collides with a desire for greater profits. I would have a problem if that market were left unchecked.
Right. I don’t have a problem with the trust buster. But I think Tamiflu is a long way from a life or death product or a monopoly.
Maybe I am overestimating the impact of Tamiflu. I better do a little light pharmaceutical reading.
I think that a lot of doctors don’t even prescribe Tamiflu because it has a short window of opportunity that you can take it. I believe that if you do not start the medicine within a specific amount of time then it will not work.
Is that correct Dustin?
Dawn
You are correct Dawn.
Why is everyone worried about getting the tamiflu or other prescriptions to prevent the H1N1 flu, just leave it up to Obama and he will cure everything. Oh by the way, I heard Obama watched 2 quarters of football on Sunday and he won the Heisman Trophy, that will look great setting along side of the Pulitzer prize he won.
Did a Google on “tamiflu” and “tamiflu shortage” and hard put to come up with any source attributing any shortage to a government buy-out. Anything I read laid it at the feet of supply and demand.
Dan – I would be curious as to your source for this gov’ment action. Were there any black helicopters involved?
Seems the issue is with the liquid form because it’s the choice for kids but some pharmacies are adapting by converting the capsules (powder) to liquid. Roche, the Swiss company which owns tamiflu is happy with an over 9% increase in demand just in the last quarter. Capitalism is working for them.
It is the liquid form I’m talking about and my source is the doctor and the pharmacist. It is supply and demand. If the government has a large order and the company can’t keep up with the demand, there is no supply for local private businesses.
Zanado, Tamiflu is a seasonal product. Demand will go up in the fall/winter and down in spring/summer. I don’t keep it on my shelf during the summer as it will just sit there until next year.
My wholesaler McKesson sent out a release about the liquid shortage. They attributed it to a large increase in demand from H1N1(unexpected) as well as regular order for seasonal influenza (expected). There is some leaway is production capabilities but a substantial buy from governments around the world, including our own.
No Black Helicoptors, no Men in Black, Dick Cheney/Joe Biden didn’t show up.
Simple supply and demand economics.
Dustin
The helicopters are after Dan not you Dustin .
Dan & Dustin – Thanks for getting back. All do respect but it seems the lead-in to this issue last Friday was kinda like a teaser on Fox, to keep you tuned in and paranoid.
Anywho and I bow to the experts, tamiflu (as I understand) is intended more to to treat flu symptoms. Apparently it can reduce spread of the influenza virus in the body but primarily, in people who have had symptoms for less than 2 days. In checking with my source’s, one of several qualifiers considered for receiving tamiflu is if one has had the nasal flu vaccine, the one currently most readily available.
Considering the H1N1 is proving to pass or at least reduce to the aggravation of a cold after about 2 days, maybe this is a non-issue except for the “seasonal flu” and I’d be willing to bet there has been a shortage leading into every flu season.
Oh! Now is probably not the time to mention that both Rumsfeld and George Shultz are stockeholders & former board members of Gilead Sciences, Inc. the developers of Tamiflu and now owned by Roche. Dum-da-dum-daaa….